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Season 1 Episode 2 - Caren Teichmann

In this podcast, host CK Collins interviews Reverend Caren Teichmann on the topic of getting unstuck. Teichmann shares her experience of being a stay-at-home mom, a second-career divinity student, and then a pastor after going through a difficult period in her life.



Teichmann talks about the moment when she discovered her ex-husband was unfaithful, leading to a messy divorce and financial challenges. She and her children were faced with moving from their family home, their hometown and finding a new way of life.


Collins and Teichmann discuss the importance of having a support network during challenging times and how reaching out to them can help people get unstuck.


Teichmann shares her metaphor of the butterfly to describe the transformation process that happens when one is in a state of change and how it eventually leads to a better outcome. Overall, people who are stuck need to find their resilience, courage, and the power of community support. With time, a metamorphosis occurs and the person who is stuck will eventually fly.


Collins and Teichmann move on to the topic of intuition and the importance of trusting it. They both agree that it's common to ignore our intuition because we're conditioned to trust authority figures instead.


Collins mentions that after experiencing a major life change, such as divorce, job change or breakup, it can be difficult to know what you want, but it's important to be open to new opportunities and listen to your intuition. Teichmann agrees that it's challenging to trust your intuition because you may doubt yourself and worry about being wrong. But what is the cost of doing nothing? How long do you wait to take that step forward? You can’t replace time.


They also discuss the idea of signs and how they can come from anywhere, including religious or spiritual sources, but it's important to recognize that intuition is innate in all of us.


Collins shares a personal experience where she followed her intuition to walk the Camino de Santiago, and how this decision led to several positive changes in her life. They both emphasize that listening to our intuition will lead to personal growth and positive outcomes.


Next, they discuss a moment in Teichmann’s life when she was panicked and felt like there was no future for her. She imagined herself homeless and living in a box on the street, but no one in her inner circle seemed to be worried about her. She couldn't understand why nobody else saw things the way she did. At the time, Collins asked her to imagine living in a box on Broadway in downtown Nashville with a sign that reads "will work for food." What is the worst thing that could happen?


This made Teichmann realize that living in a box would be so much better than the lie she was living in her hometown. She trusted her friends, and she knew they wouldn't do her wrong. She trusted the energy even though she couldn't see it.

Teichmann emphasizes the importance of having the right people around you, people who will tell you the truth and not be anxious, as it wouldn't be helpful to her. She realized that she didn't need anyone else to fall apart with her. Her friends had a vision for her, one that wasn't based on fear or scarcity. They saw something in her that she couldn't see, and she had to trust them. Teichmann took baby steps, one little stepping stone at a time, but it was like stepping over the Grand Canyon.


C.K. Collins and her friends could see that Teichmann had an education, drive, and was highly intelligent. They knew how capable she was and believed in her. They saw staying in a place that had completely broken her heart was way scarier than her leaving. Her friends wanted her kids to be out of that situation as much as possible. The kids get stuck in the middle, no matter who is at fault, and they have to deal with both parties and love both parties.


Teichmann concludes by saying that just knowing where the bottom is, is huge. She emphasizes that having the right people around you is important, and they can help you see things you couldn't see before.


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